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Moreover, regarding the second topic, I think the involved parties should be penalized for not complying the established rules. We have rules and breaking them ought to end in punishment. — caBastard 2012/07/09 21:02
The battle of the desert was a raid, the soviets were in discussions with Sikandar due to our timezones not matching. But Sikandar dissappeared without telling anyone, a minor edit in the wiki should not count as informing as not everyone checks the wiki every day. The Soviets did not inform anyone else from the Mongols even though they had plenty of chance to, even on the day of the battle when they finally did inform a mongol supporter they refused to tell them when and where it would take place. Its not like its hard to contact any of us, we are all part on /int/minecraft groups on steam, our emails are on the wiki and most of us idle in IRC where you can leave messages. Yet you keep banging on about contacting an inactive member who only had the power to declare wars, not accept battles. It has always been through Kovio that battles have been conducted. As for Fot Yurt you should note that mid way through the seige of fort yurt both parties declared the rules void and that anything goes, so from that point on anything goes. It is also vital to note that GAM-Soviet forces had chests full of potions in their makeshift camp before hand, and were planning to cheat all along. If they hadn't had diamond armour on at the start of the battle none of this would ever happen as Mongols were keen to keep with the rules, we were just lucky it was near our town so we could get access to our enchanted weapons and potions. As for being punished for breaking the rules that we decided to use? Hell no, stop trolling caBst. These predefined 'rules' are just guidelines for the battle, it even says on the page Nothing is official. If both sides decide mid battle that the rules are off then why should they be punished? — green kitten 2012/07/09 21:21
Some more input
So I guess you don't have any evidence that we decided to cheat. People only had that stuff in their chests because YOU harrassed us constantly the day before at our camp and Mystia put her diamond stuff away instantly, she was only standing around in it, not fighting, even you have admitted this yourself. But this seemed to be enough for you to cheat back anyway. Also, calling off rules in mid-battle is the definition of cheating, since it was obviously not possible for both sides to fight under fair conditions, which have been confirmed way before.
Now to the statement that only Kovio can start battles: He obviously didn't at Merriport. But somehow this battle is perfectly legal for you.
And by the time the battle was announced by Sturm, Sikandar was still listed as a full co-leader of the KK. There were no restrictions on his job mentioned and it seemed like he was willing to fight this battle. Then he went inactive. It was his responsibility to tell you as a leader, he failed to do it and thus you were punished with this defeat. Oh, and if you check the wiki, you can see that the Battle of Gorask and Fort Yurt were also only a small announcement here. But for these discussions there were tons of replies. Apparently you didn't even care for the desert battle. Even FlakeSe said he knew of the battle although he was on vacation. And I quote the international laws of engagement:
Once in a war, after a maximum of three straight days of being asked for a sanctioned battle, a nation must make a choice:
1. To accept that battle (see above: Lawful Battles)
2. To accept something else (see above: Lawful Whatever)
3. To opt out with a fee of [32*(defpop/atkpop)]
4. To surrender the war with a fee of [100*(defpop/atkpop)] plus any additional payment that was expressed to the other side before the war.
You had the time, green even replied to the topic in the discussion but there was no clear answer. Since you didn't choose any of the options and didn't suggest “something else” as written above it should be a victory for us.
Checking the wiki regularly on important stuff concerning the nations should be common sense. Especially australians with their different timezones should be used to checking stuff they might have missed.
Also finding stuff on the wiki is not hard, you simply click “Recent Changes” and every new relevant activity on the wiki appears, so einfach ist das.
End of rant.
— fegelein 2012/07/09 21:57
Both sides cheated in the battle of Fort Gorask which was not anulled so i dont see how the Giant Yurt one is any different. Both sides failed at communicating effectively about the time of the Desert battle so with no mongols and no fatalities it isint a battle at all but should still imo be counted as a soviet win — Flakese 2012/07/09 22:46 battle of the desert