Tell us what rules of engagement we've broken? At the moment we're experiencing a time of pax katara. We are not engaging in any wars, or have any plans too. Since nedermark refuses to have a war, I have made all vassals cease and desist hostile activities in the nedermarkian region. Since Nedermark and Kovanje Vrystaat are both Dutch themed, I even asked waffen to build in Dynstaad if he wanted to. Since there are no political entities that are willing to fight us, we have no one to fight. There's no need for anything like this. — cool dude 2012/07/18 03:39
I haven't been paying attention, someone was just complaining. Sounds fine though.
People have been complaining since forever, this server has an anti-mongol sentiment amongst the users. Its not our fault others are butthurt about our successes with annexing other nations. Actually, maybe it is our fault, but it doesn't matter because they are losers while we are the winners. 
— green kitten 2012/07/18 09:15
Here are my arguments:
- They don't work as nation much less as a Nation-State. They are classified as “horde” yet they grant themselves the same rights as nations just because they have enough people to be one.
- They build every-fucking-where and later claim the land. Is not even a proper settlement, it's just yurts under the name of towns. 100% effortless.
- They war for no reason whatsoever (annexing just because is not an actual reason nor is “because we are mongols that's what we do”)
- They claim that by making this wars they are keeping the political game alive which is the complete opposite. As they keep annexing nations, the less nations are there to play with. And since anyone that declares itself a nation will be declared war upon (see Nedermark), nobody wants to play the nations game anymore due to this; therefore, rather than keeping it alive it is killing it. What the hell will happen after they annex it all? What's the point?
- I don't even know where their land begins or ends at. Thanks to their vassal states they have land scattered all around the map which to me honestly makes no sense, specially when you don't have a nation-state structure. They annex them and then just let them be so I still don't see the point.
- I've seen the International Rules of Engagement be distorted thenks to their wars.
- Kovio cannot be taken seriously and greenkitten is a massive shit
posterplayer. That alone is enough to not let them be a nation.
In conclusion: They have ruined the nation game. They twisted the established rules in their favor (in a much more vile way than Shakomatic did with Breshik and YugoTexas with Nova Kurwa) and have just made it unpleasant. — caBastard 2012/07/18 18:55
What the hell will happen after they annex it all? What's the point?
Wouldn't you like to know — Bubba Squeedo 2012/07/18 21:00
@caBst: you're just angry we made the server populated again. — cool dude 2012/07/19 00:21